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Post by Darfix on Jul 18, 2008 9:05:53 GMT -5
Which is why I'm so glad I'm Canadian. While the US goes broke mayhaps we'll start our own decent space program. Or steal the US one. Whichever comes first. Seriously though, the States is running itself into the ground with that stupid 'war'. Also, try not to think of the US as the -only- place developing technology. Canada, Russia, Japan and others do the science thing to. So if the states doesn't think of it first, others surely will. Japan most likely first. =P Believe me, I never once said the US is the only nation developing technology. It's just that since the "Cold War" ended, Russia has been in deficit so much that the space program was partially shelved over there. Japan is just now getting into space with their own programs and I do believe Canada has plans for the future if I am not mistaken? It's just that the US was the first and we've been doing it for awhile. Plus, as an American, our country has a habit of excessive "ignorance" towards any and all other nations. I am definitely an exception to that rule, but yeah... If shit keeps going the way it is, I'll probably be a Canadian soon lol. Well, the Alexandrian Libraries weren't destroyed in this version of the world, if that helps the technology along. But maybe we shouldn't have a projected date and instead plan out the exact technology HE should have and what has been accomplished, first, and then give the RP an appropriate year. However, being the Neutral that I am, I'd have to say that wars aren't all bad; a lot of technology was developed because of them. In the desire to defeat their opponent, people strive to make better, faster, stronger weaponry and pay engineers and scientists to put theories into practice. An utterly peaceful world would grow lazy and stop advancing since all we need to survive and communicate world-wide is already there. So there'd be no experiments in plasma for another 1000 years. BTW, according to Keppy, there are also humans in this world. I don't remember whether we decided to keep them or not. They just make things more confusing than they need to be. Now that you mention Japan taking lead in inventions and science, it would be a good explanation as to why Em joined Kirisawa and not some other company to work for =P War can be a good thing for technology. I remember watching a documentary on WWI very recently. The four years of war there kicked aviation technology up 20 some years. So yeah, war does cause the development of technology to rise. Also, don't get the impression that I hate war. I obviously do not like the fact that many innocents lose their lives, especially when the world "super power" throws it's weight around like the biggest kid on the school ground. However, if you haven't guessed already, Shani, my favorite games and the like often are wrapped around some kind of a modern/sub-modern war. WWII is a good example. Yeah, I have a huge interest in international politics and the like, so--
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Post by Benny the Bear on Jul 18, 2008 14:26:09 GMT -5
This thread is the best thread ever.
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Post by Zaos on Jul 18, 2008 22:40:47 GMT -5
This thread is the best thread ever. Agreed. Quite awesome. *Offers a bowl of popcorn*
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Post by Darfix on Jul 19, 2008 0:15:34 GMT -5
The dude on the left looks like Benton Quest from Jonny Quest.
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Post by Nek0Bunny-chanz on Jul 19, 2008 2:56:22 GMT -5
I love this thread this much!
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Post by Darfix on Jul 19, 2008 9:04:37 GMT -5
o.o;; That--is quite a lot--
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Post by Shani on Jul 19, 2008 11:46:46 GMT -5
Enough of this tomfoolery! Let's get back on topic. We need Keppy to describe the technologies used and then we can round up the century. What did we decide on with food storage? Getting crushed wasn't a favorable option.
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Post by mizzy on Jul 19, 2008 13:04:35 GMT -5
Enough of this tomfoolery! Let's get back on topic. We need Keppy to describe the technologies used and then we can round up the century. What did we decide on with food storage? Getting crushed wasn't a favorable option. Personally, I'm in favor of conventional storage with perhaps enhanced methods of frozen foods to extend expiry dates. Mostly because I imagine their voyage would have a time to arrival and time of return date to wherever they're headed. However, for plot purposes, something could go wrong and prevent their return, forcing the crew to scavenge far reaching planets for food and the like. Opens up plots for alien creatures (not necessarily intelligent or sentient ones, mind you), and discovery of alien flora/fauna. This is an exploratory mission after all, no? So my best guess would be a cargo in the belly of the ship for maybe 3-4 years worth of food, and if there's no way to keep meat or vegetables for that long, that a particularly unappetizing but nutritionally appropriate engineered food could be stored in bulk. I'm thinking in terms of physically possible things here, mind you. Whether they reflect already formed sci-fi plots from different sources is mute. If it makes sense, it should be included. Cliches are hard to avoid nowadays. And besides, most of those sci-fi ideas were well-founded and are probably worth repeating.
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Post by Tropico on Jul 19, 2008 19:21:35 GMT -5
Enough of this tomfoolery! Let's get back on topic. We need Keppy to describe the technologies used and then we can round up the century. What did we decide on with food storage? Getting crushed wasn't a favorable option. I'm still in favor of Dried-frozen, frozen, dried, powdered, and canned foods. XD But that's only because how long my family's had some of that stuff. .. it lasts a very, very long time... specially powdered... because we still have the Jell-o boxes... since.. I don't know... 2000? Not that we've opened them yet. D: But nothing like... compacted so much that your entire meal consists of a 1x1 inches sized cube of food. ...because that's honestly, a) very silly, b) would be a mass inconvenience to the cook... and c) .... not all of us are into the Just-add-water fad. D: Anyways. I have an Idea or two. And since this is an ideas thread, I think I have the go-ahead to post em. Keyboards, amongst other things with keys, are symbiot-boards, Like the stuff on some Microwaves. Just now more sensative so you don't have to press so hard. Moniter screens, depending on what for, are still requiring of Glass, but now say, in a screen meant for the Captain's viewing is not but two devices holding up a crystal clear piece of glass, and when the right information is given, then the devices project various colors and wavelangths through the glass to provide an image. aaaand... that's all I have for Ideas... *sits in corner for being a silly little nerd with unoriginal ideas.* u.u
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Post by Zaos on Jul 19, 2008 21:28:44 GMT -5
I'm still in favor of Dried-frozen, frozen, dried, powdered, and canned foods. XD But that's only because how long my family's had some of that stuff. .. it lasts a very, very long time... specially powdered... because we still have the Jell-o boxes... since.. I don't know... 2000? Not that we've opened them yet. D: But nothing like... compacted so much that your entire meal consists of a 1x1 inches sized cube of food. ...because that's honestly, a) very silly, b) would be a mass inconvenience to the cook... and c) .... not all of us are into the Just-add-water fad. D: Anyways. I have an Idea or two. And since this is an ideas thread, I think I have the go-ahead to post em. Keyboards, amongst other things with keys, are symbiot-boards, Like the stuff on some Microwaves. Just now more sensative so you don't have to press so hard. Moniter screens, depending on what for, are still requiring of Glass, but now say, in a screen meant for the Captain's viewing is not but two devices holding up a crystal clear piece of glass, and when the right information is given, then the devices project various colors and wavelangths through the glass to provide an image. aaaand... that's all I have for Ideas... *sits in corner for being a silly little nerd with unoriginal ideas.* u.u Actually I rather like those ideas. They seem about right for the time period we're supposed to be going for. Unfortunately I have no good ideas for this so I'm just gonna resign myself to a listening spot in this discussion.
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Post by Shani on Jul 20, 2008 5:41:26 GMT -5
I sure hope this is an exploratory mission and not something else! XD
We have a lot of ways to preserve food, even up to 8 years, like Tropi's Jell-o boxes. In the future there will be more ways or better freezing methods. I'm sure that vegetables, fruit, and mushrooms can all be grown or genetically engineered, and even wheat for pasta. I certainly wouldn't want compacted food or capsules to which you just add water XP That kind of eliminates the purpose of having talented cooks! Souley would be insulted at having to work with that.
And I'm looking forward to exploring alien planets and finding new resources and dangers ;3
I love your ideas! Super-flat-screen TVs X3 More original than just plain ol' holograms, imo, which are used in every other sci-fi.
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Post by Darfix on Jul 20, 2008 9:21:30 GMT -5
Yeah, the holograms get whored out like (insert random female character's name here). I like the idea of the super flat screen TVs too Also, as far as canned goods and the like go, I like that too because those last forever as well xP
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Post by Kepora on Jul 20, 2008 19:51:01 GMT -5
Hmmm...I'm liking Neon's idea for the super-flat screens; there could be projectors in the arms and/or the interior of the "glass" could be filled the liquid, basically makeit a highly-evolved LCD screen. As for meats and such for food, they could take certain food waste material (unused part sof plants and such) to turn into an energy source to use for cloning meat. They could start off with the perfect steak, but then everyone could get one XP
Also, as for the history/war issues, here's a few vague outlines of how this world's versions went down (I'll decide on actual years for the events later):
World War 1 happened nearly 50 years before it would've on our timeline and for various reasons, but y then aviation technology had been furthered to an extent compared to ours-though wartime uses were new for them.
World War 2 started a few years later, but this led to A: the Axis havign an even more powerful fighting force to start out with and B: them spreading farther into the European countryside at a much faster rate. The entire Northern half of Africa was conquered compared to only the northern borders in our world, and the Axis armies were better-prepared for an assault on Russia-both in technology and in their timing to work with the weather. Japan held off their attack on Pearl Harbor until later as well, and by the time America and Canada joined the Allied forces, the Nazis had -ALL- of Europe (save England, which was almost literally about to topl into the ocean), the northern half of Africa, the Northern border of Australia, a good third of RUssia, and even had bases at the Eastern fringe of South America. Attacking forces ende dup funnelling through Central America and into America's Southern border, rushing itno the midwest and holding ground until they were driven back. Mistake after mistake and the Allied countries' home advantages helped weaken Nazi forces until they were forced to reteat back to Europe, and a swift assault ended the war there, stopping the European Axis armies before they could fully re-inforce themselves with the troops coming back from the Americas. The war in the Pacific went along a very similar path to ours until the point of the bombings of Japan; the arial defenses were too powerful, so the nuclear warheads wee delivered via the fist railguns positioned in China.
I will go into fourther detail about the COld War later on, but I can say that, like in our times, it was one of the main driving forces behind the quickened pac eof technology development.
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Post by Darfix on Jul 20, 2008 20:15:32 GMT -5
Only one part I have a question on. Nuclear warheads delivered via railguns positioned in China? If I am understanding your meaning correctly, I don't see why you would want to shoot a nuclear warhead with a railgun type device. Missiles, like we use in modern times are "lobbed" into the air and they crash down on the enemy. Railguns shoot at high velocities on a relatively straight axis, meaning if there is a mountain between you and your intended target or a change in elevation, it'll completely throw off your aim. Also, if it's a hyper velocity railgun, you might even shoot the round right out of Earth's orbit as it'd exceed gravity's force and just enter the atmosphere as it comes around the spherical shape of the Earth. But yeah, just putting that out for now
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Post by Kepora on Jul 20, 2008 22:24:09 GMT -5
Well, there are mountains in China, are there not? =P though I do see what you mean...then again, they'd be relatively weak seeing as they're the firs tof their kind, so the trajectory would arc downwards eventually, and the bombs were detonated via timer after they calculate how long it'd take them to get over the cities.
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